Debian Bug report logs - #13021
boot-floppies: basesystem via FTP

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: clameter@debian.org

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: boot-floppies: basesystem via FTP

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:27:10 -0700

Package: boot-floppies
Version: 1.2.23

I think there is enough space on the boot floppies to include ftp on it. It
would be nice to be able to get the base system tarball via ftp instead of
needing an NFS server around.

Also: Why do the boot-floppies require a driver disk? There are certainly
situations where I do not need any drivers from the driver disk. Could
the driver disk be gotten via FTP or so too?

The CD-ROm boots directly into the rescue disk. But how does it then get the
driver disk?

-- System Information
Debian Release: 1.3
Kernel Version: Linux waterf.org 2.0.31 #9 Sun Sep 7 14:23:04 PDT 1997 i486 unknown

Versions of the packages boot-floppies depends on:
libc5-pic	Not installed or no info
ncurses3.0-pic	Not installed or no info
mkrboot	Not installed or no info
dosfstools	Not installed or no info
syslinux	Not installed or no info
sysutils	Version: 1.2-1
makedev	Version: 1.6-17

Message #10 received at 13021@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>

To: clameter@debian.org, 13021@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Sven Rudolph <sr1-boot-floppies@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#13021: boot-floppies: basesystem via FTP

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:39:46 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 clameter@debian.org wrote:

> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: 1.2.23
> 
> I think there is enough space on the boot floppies to include ftp on it. It
> would be nice to be able to get the base system tarball via ftp instead of
> needing an NFS server around.
>
I believe the root file system on the boot floppies is pretty cramped.
Sven, can you speek to this one?
 
> Also: Why do the boot-floppies require a driver disk? There are certainly
> situations where I do not need any drivers from the driver disk. Could
> the driver disk be gotten via FTP or so too?
> 
While most/all of the SCSI drivers are "built in" to the kernel, there are
several proprietary drives as well as some device drivers that "conflict"
with other possible drivers that are necessary in some hardware
configurations for the installation to proceed.

> The CD-ROm boots directly into the rescue disk. But how does it then get the
> driver disk?
> 
Off of the CD. If you boot the CD directly, it is assumed that you will
continue with a CD installation from that point onward. This, of course,
requires that you have a CD-ROM drive that is accessable to the
intallation kernel.

Luck,

Dwarf
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Message #15 received at 13021@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sven Rudolph <sr1@os.inf.tu-dresden.de>

To: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>

Cc: clameter@debian.org, 13021@bugs.debian.org, Sven Rudolph <sr1-boot-floppies@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#13021: boot-floppies: basesystem via FTP

Date: 15 Sep 1997 20:05:34 +0200

Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net> writes:

> On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 clameter@debian.org wrote:
> 
> > Package: boot-floppies
> > Version: 1.2.23
> > 
> > I think there is enough space on the boot floppies to include ftp on it. It
> > would be nice to be able to get the base system tarball via ftp instead of
> > needing an NFS server around.
> >
> I believe the root file system on the boot floppies is pretty cramped.
> Sven, can you speek to this one?

80K are free on boot.bin. This translates to more than 200K in the
uncompressed ramdisk. This is no problem in the >6MB-case.

This might change when we build the floppies with libc6, so it makes
no sense to decide something now.

> > Also: Why do the boot-floppies require a driver disk? There are certainly
> > situations where I do not need any drivers from the driver disk. Could
> > the driver disk be gotten via FTP or so too?

Ethernet drivers are on the drivers disk, plip too, SLIP/PPP tools
aren't in the root FS. Which interface should be used to get these
drivers via FTP?

	Sven
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Message #22 received at 13021@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Adam Di Carlo <aph@debian.org>

To: Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au>

Cc: 13021@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: network installs

Date: 07 Mar 1999 18:31:01 -0500

>>>>> "aj" == Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> writes:
aj> I've done a couple of slink installs recently, with some success.

aj> Unfortunately, I wasn't able to do either of them from CD (the
aj> first, the CD drive was some weird parallel port SCSI thing, which
aj> I just gave up on, and the second I didn't have a Debian CD in the
aj> first place)

aj> Anyway, both times I did have a working fast ethernet connection,
aj> and it was /really/ annoying that I couldn't just ftp the base
aj> disks from somewhere.

aj> I'd thus like to ask for the program snarf to be added to the
aj> bootdisks for potato.

aj> It's GPLed, and I presume it's small enough not to cause too many
aj> problems:

aj> [aj@sapphire ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/snarf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19244
aj> Dec 31 02:34 /usr/bin/snarf* [aj@sapphire ~]$ ldd /usr/bin/snarf
aj> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40010000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 =>
aj> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)

aj> It supports ftp, http (proxies and authenticated), and gopher
aj> urls.

aj> Please please please?

This is already bug#13021, BTW.

I don't know how high it is on Enrique's list.  If you impatient, I
suggest you hack the source and submit patches?  Adding stuff to base
is hard because we are under heavy space constraints.

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Message #27 received at 13021-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Schulze <joey@finlandia.Infodrom.North.DE>

To: 13021-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Debian Bug report logs - #13021

Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:10:00 +0200

> Package: boot-floppies
> Version: 1.2.23

Being old...

> I think there is enough space on the boot floppies to include ftp on it. It
> would be nice to be able to get the base system tarball via ftp instead of
> needing an NFS server around.

The boot-floppies now support HTTP for the base system which is
more comfortable, I believe.

> Also: Why do the boot-floppies require a driver disk? There are certainly
> situations where I do not need any drivers from the driver disk. Could
> the driver disk be gotten via FTP or so too?

You can skip the drivers disk or install it via fd0/fd1/mounted/harddisk.
If you only need a couple of drivers you can load them from an extra disk
as well (from 2.2.17 and newer, not released yet)

Regards,

	Joey

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