Debian Bug report logs - #37143
lists.debian.org should use a free search engine.

Package: listarchives; Maintainer for listarchives is (unknown);

Reported by: jdassen@debian.org

Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:18:00 UTC

Severity: normal

Merged with 223976

Done: Thomas Viehmann <tv@beamnet.de>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, James Treacy <webmaster@debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package www.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "J.H.M. Dassen" <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: www.debian.org: Should use a free search engine.
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:09:24 +0200
Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A

www.debian.org should use a free search engine like ht://dig rather than
non-free glimpse.

-- System Information
Debian Release: potato
Kernel Version: Linux penguin.wi.leidenuniv.nl 2.2.7-ac1 #1 Thu Apr 29 09:47:24 CEST 1999 i586 unknown
-- 
Ray Dassen <jdassen@wi.LeidenUniv.nl>


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, James Treacy <webmaster@debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package www.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #10 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org>
To: "J.H.M. Dassen" <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl>, 37143@bugs.debian.org
Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#37143: www.debian.org: Should use a free search engine.
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:51:35 -0400
On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 02:09:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
> Package: www.debian.org
> Version: N/A
> 
> www.debian.org should use a free search engine like ht://dig rather than
> non-free glimpse.
> 
Where is htdig being used? If you don't come up with anything please
close the bug.

Jay Treacy


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, James Treacy <webmaster@debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package www.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org>:
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, James Treacy <webmaster@debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package www.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to "Darren O. Benham" <gecko@debian.org>:
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Message #20 received at 37143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Darren O. Benham" <gecko@debian.org>
To: "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org>, 37143@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#37143: www.debian.org: Should use a free search engine.
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:11:21 -0700
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On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 01:51:35PM -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
> On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 02:09:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
> > Package: www.debian.org
> > Version: N/A
> > 
> > www.debian.org should use a free search engine like ht://dig rather than
> > non-free glimpse.
> > 
> Where is htdig being used? If you don't come up with anything please
> close the bug.
> 
I think he's say that glimpse is non-free and being used (lists archives?)
and www.debian.org should not be using glimpse.  He then offered ht://dig
as a free alternative.

This is based on the text only, I don't know anything about any of those to
know free/non-free, etc.

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, James Treacy <webmaster@debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package www.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Gergely Madarasz <gorgo@caesar.elte.hu>:
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Message #25 received at 37143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gergely Madarasz <gorgo@caesar.elte.hu>
To: "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org>, 37143@bugs.debian.org
Cc: jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl
Subject: Re: Bug#37143: www.debian.org: Should use a free search engine.
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:21:41 +0200 (METDST)
On Tue, 4 May 1999, James A. Treacy wrote:

> On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 02:09:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
> > Package: www.debian.org
> > Version: N/A
> > 
> > www.debian.org should use a free search engine like ht://dig rather than
> > non-free glimpse.
> > 
> Where is htdig being used? If you don't come up with anything please
> close the bug.

http://www.htdig.org/uses.html

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, James Treacy <webmaster@debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package www.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to James Treacy <webmaster@debian.org>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #30 received at 37143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org>
To: "Darren O. Benham" <gecko@debian.org>
Cc: 37143@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#37143: www.debian.org: Should use a free search engine.
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:42:54 -0400
On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 11:11:21AM -0700, Darren O. Benham wrote:
> On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 01:51:35PM -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 02:09:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
> > > Package: www.debian.org
> > > Version: N/A
> > > 
> > > www.debian.org should use a free search engine like ht://dig rather than
> > > non-free glimpse.
> > > 
> > Where is htdig being used? If you don't come up with anything please
> > close the bug.
> > 
> I think he's say that glimpse is non-free and being used (lists archives?)
> and www.debian.org should not be using glimpse.  He then offered ht://dig
> as a free alternative.
> 
> This is based on the text only, I don't know anything about any of those to
> know free/non-free, etc.
> 
May mistake. I read what he wrote backwards.

Anyway, this should be reassigned against lists.debian.org

Jay Treacy


Bug reassigned from package `www.debian.org' to `lists.debian.org'. Request was from "Darren O. Benham" <gecko@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Martin Schulze and Hanno Wagner <listmaster@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package lists.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to "J.H.M. Dassen" <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze and Hanno Wagner <listmaster@lists.debian.org>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #37 received at 37143@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "J.H.M. Dassen" <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl>
To: 37143@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#37143: www.debian.org: Should use a free search engine.
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:52:42 +0200
On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 13:51:35 -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
> On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 02:09:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
> > www.debian.org should use a free search engine like ht://dig rather than
> > non-free glimpse.
> > 
> Where is htdig being used?

An altavista search for "htdig" OR "ht://dig" gets me 4927 hits. Assuming
that just 10% of those are sites actually using, that still amounts to
hunderds of sites.

> If you don't come up with anything please close the bug.

Excuse me? Debian is about free software. Yes, we use non-free software for
the project (PGP, SSH), but only where there is no sufficiently mature free
alternative yet. ht://dig is a free (GPLed) search engine, and looks
sufficiently mature to handle the tasks we currently use glimpse for.

Ray
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Martin Schulze and Hanno Wagner <listmaster@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#37143; Package lists.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze and Hanno Wagner <listmaster@lists.debian.org>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #42 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#37143: www.debian.org: Should use a free search engine.
Date: 5 May 1999 23:38:19 +0200
In article <cistron.19990505205242.A15202@ultra5.wi.leidenuniv.nl>,
J.H.M. Dassen <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:
>On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 13:51:35 -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
>> On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 02:09:24PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
>> > www.debian.org should use a free search engine like ht://dig rather than
>> > non-free glimpse.
>> > 
>> Where is htdig being used?
>
>An altavista search for "htdig" OR "ht://dig" gets me 4927 hits. Assuming
>that just 10% of those are sites actually using, that still amounts to
>hunderds of sites.

We use it at Cistron to index our company webpage and all the homepages
of the users. I think it works really great. Check out
http://homepage.cistron.nl/search/ , it searches through thousands
of user-sites (tens of thousands of pages) instantly.

Mike.
-- 
Indifference will certainly be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?


Bug reassigned from package `lists.debian.org' to `www.debian.org'. Request was from Martin Schulze <listmaster@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Changed Bug title. Request was from Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Bug reassigned from package `www.debian.org' to `listarchives'. Request was from Josip Rodin <joy@cibalia.gkvk.hr> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Bug closed, send any further explanations to "J.H.M. Dassen" <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl> Request was from "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <jdassen@cistron-office.nl> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Bug reopened, originator set to jdassen@debian.org. Request was from "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <jdassen@cistron-office.nl> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Merged 37143 223976. Request was from Josip Rodin <joy@srce.hr> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #55 received at 37143-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Thomas Viehmann <tv@beamnet.de>
To: <131878-done@bugs.debian.org>, <194834-done@bugs.debian.org>, <37143-done@bugs.debian.org>, <201739-done@bugs.debian.org>, <204590-done@bugs.debian.org>, <207572-done@bugs.debian.org>, <218536-done@bugs.debian.org>, <232467-done@bugs.debian.org>, <236360-done@bugs.debian.org>, <256259-done@bugs.debian.org>, <387011-done@bugs.debian.org>, <388183-done@bugs.debian.org>, <440347-done@bugs.debian.org>, <130570-done@bugs.debian.org>, <159657-done@bugs.debian.org>, <318174-done@bugs.debian.org>, <155086-done@bugs.debian.org>, <102344-done@bugs.debian.org>, <201743-done@bugs.debian.org>, <223976-done@bugs.debian.org>, <311166-done@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: new search engine solves problems
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:03:49 +0100
Hi,

the new list search engine[1] resolves most of the open search  
issues, so I would like to take the opportunity to close those that  
seem to be fixed. Please don't hesitate to reopen, file new bugs  
agains listarchives, or contact the listmaster if you find that  
something has been marked done in error.

Solved (including complaints about the quarterly subdivisions not  
working):
   * #131878: search engine does not look at least at last month
              it is asked
   * #194834: Checkboxes to combine lists don't work as expected
   * #37143:  lists.debian.org should use a free search engine.
   * #201739: search engine for lists has wrong default
   * #204590: listarchives: default should be more inclusive
   * #207572: search.html: multiple list selection fails
   * #218536: Mailing list search engine can't search for numbers
   * #232467: www.debian.org: mailing list search seems to miss some
              items
   * #236360: listarchives: search missing some messages
   * #256259: listarchives: another missing search in current month
   * #387011: searching lists archived yearly fails
   * #388183: searching the listarchives for pentium-builder returns
              zero results
   * #440347: debian-security-announce not indexed for search
   * #130570: Please include numbers in search index
   * #159657: listarchives: Can only select a single list in list
              filter
   * #318174: listarchives: at least say what search terms we used

Invalidated, because they were glimpse-specific:
   * #155086: doesn't find valid matches; case sensitive search gives
              more matches than insensitive
   * #102344: searching for "~something~" and for URLs makes glimpse
              crash
   * #201743: listarchives: search doesn't work as advertised
   * #223976: Replacing glimpse with mnogosearch ?
   * #311166: listarchives: if set Max-Lines-Per-Message == 0, get no
              results at all, just empty page

Kind regards

Thomas

1. http://lists.debian.org/search.html
-- 
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