Debian Bug report logs - #988
`script' is insecure, and general tty insecurity

Package: bsdutils; Maintainer for bsdutils is util-linux packagers <util-linux@packages.debian.org>; Source for bsdutils is src:util-linux (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson)

Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:03:04 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: unknown

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com:
Bug#988; Package bsdutils. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson):
New bug report received and forwarded. (full text, mbox, link).


Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com:
Bug#988; Package bsdutils. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens):
Extra info received and forwarded. (full text, mbox, link).


Bug reassigned from package `bsdutils' to `general'. Request was from Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Merged 988 7112. Request was from Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org:
Bug#988; Package general. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Austin Donnelly <Austin.Donnelly@cl.cam.ac.uk>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to debian-devel@lists.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #19 received at 988@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Austin Donnelly <Austin.Donnelly@cl.cam.ac.uk>
To: Nag <bcwhite@debian.org>
Cc: 988@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#988: `script' is insecure, and general tty insecurity
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:29:58 +0000
On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, bcwhite@debian.org wrote:

> Package: bsdutils
> Message: overdue

This bug is one of the fundamental problems with unix.  Eventually, a
proper fix for it (in the form of a daemon whose sole purpose is to
hand out master/slave pty pairs while filling in a correct utmp entry)
might be attempted.

The bug is mainly there as a reminder.

Please consider taking this bug off the 'nag' list.

Thanks,
Austin
PS: I think the nag system is otherwise rather good :)


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org:
Bug#988; Package general. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Richard Braakman <dark@xs4all.nl>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to debian-devel@lists.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #24 received at 988@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Richard Braakman <dark@xs4all.nl>
To: 988@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Solution to pty allocation problem
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:08:41 +0200 (MET DST)
Hi.  I have invested a non-trivial amount of thought into this problem :-)
and I think I have found a solution that works and that avoids all
race conditions.  It involves three small suid-root binaries that
have to be called according to a certain recipe.  (An example is 
provided).  The caller does not need _any_ special privileges.
Thus, xterm could be patched to not need to run as root, and 
script could be made spy-proof.  (And an ancient bug report
could be closed :)

The tar.gz is only 133 lines, uuencoded, so I'll just append it
to the mail.  There is a manpage inside the archive.

If there is agreement that this approach is a Good Idea, I will create
a getpty package from it and supply patches for xterm to use it.

Richard Braakman
<dark@xs4all.nl>

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org:
Bug#988; Package general. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to dark@xs4all.nl (Richard Braakman):
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to debian-devel@lists.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #29 received at 988@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: dark@xs4all.nl (Richard Braakman)
To: 988@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Pty allocation: additional info
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 02:20:31 +0200 (CEST)
I forgot to explain the security aspects when seen from the other
side: that the three setuid-root binaries can't be exploited even when
the caller does not follow the recipe.

The worst getpty can do is set tty access to root-only.  If the caller
is persistent, it could do this to all free ptys.  Most programs that
allocate pty/tty pairs won't mind if this happens, since they run as
root anyway.  The ones that don't can use getpty ;-).  The caller
could do far more damage by simply opening all the free pty master
devices.

claimpty and releasepty both change the tty permissions for an in-use
pty.  This could be a problem, which is why they both require that the
caller pass an open file descriptor for that pty.  Since a pty can be
opened only once, this guarantees that the caller is the process in
charge of that pty/tty pair.

I'll include this information in the man page if/when I make a getpty
package.

Richard Braakman
<dark@xs4all.nl>


Information forwarded to debian-devel@lists.debian.org:
Bug#988; Package general. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to remco@blaakmeer.student.utwente.nl (Remco Blaakmeer):
Extra info received and forwarded to maintainer. Copy sent to debian-devel@lists.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #34 received at 988-maintonly@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: remco@blaakmeer.student.utwente.nl (Remco Blaakmeer)
To: 988-maintonly@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Old bugs need to be looked at
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:59:52 +0100 (CET)
This is an automated message sent to all bugs older than one year.

This bug is very old. Please take a look at it and see if you can fix it.
If it has already been fixed, please close it.

If you have problems fixing it or if you don't have the time to fix it,
please ask the people on debian-devel@lists.debian.org for help, so that
at least the oldest bugs can be solved before Debian 2.0 is released.

Remco Blaakmeer


Disconnected #7112 from all other report(s). Request was from Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org:
Bug#988; Package general. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to debian-devel@lists.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #41 received at 988@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com>
To: 988@bugs.debian.org, bsdutils@packages.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: bug reassignment
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:58:35 -0500
reassign 988 bsdutils
-- 

This bug was assigned to "general" and hence was getting completely
forgotten about.  I'm reassigning it back to bsdutils, since that is
where the complaint lies.  If this has been solved, please close this
bug.  If there are other packages this bug also applies to, please
report bugs against those packages as well.

                                          Brian
                                 ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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Bug reassigned from package `general' to `bsdutils'. Request was from Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (full text, mbox, link).


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