Hi Gaudenz, and thanks for this discussion (re)start; Le dimanche, 17 mars 2013 22.36:59, Gaudenz Steinlin a écrit : > I propse we offer the following options: > 1) Sponsored accomodation and food: > With this option you don't pay anything and get a bed in a large or > medium sleeping-bag room and food at Le Camp. This means that for a maximum number of "Le Camp" attendees of 359, the number of "sponsored accomodation" attendees is a maximum of 132 (81 in medium sleeping-bag and 13+17+21=51 in large sleeping-bag). That's roughly 36% of places. I was initially puzzled by that low percentage; as my DebConf experiences where that basically everyone got sponsored accomodation at DC11, and I thought that "most" attendees got sponsored accomodation at DC12. But I now discovered that I'm wrong, so let's face it: - at DC12 [0]: 100 attendees requested sponsored accomodation, on a sum of 234 attendees: ~43%. - at DC11 [1]: 237 attendees requested sponsored accomodation, on a sum of 558 attendees: ~43%. I initially thought (and said) that aiming at (roughly) 70% accomodation+food sponsoring coverage would be inline with past years and "teh DebConf spirit"; now recent historical data painted me wrong. [0] http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/registration-data.txt [1] http://debconf-data.alioth.debian.org/stats/old-dc11/registration-data.txt Now I still think 36% is still a little low and there's basically two ways forward: a) sponsor camping; b) open one more category to sponsored accomodation. a) would mean paying for the "camping fee" on behalf of camping attendees who would request it. That would push the percentage up to 53% in the best case (but keep in mind that we can only open camping within some conditions). b) would mean opening "sleeping bag double-room" to sponsored accomodation (so that all sponsored accomodation would be "sleeping bag"), pushing the percentage up to 40%. I'd be in favour of both combined, as that would make the "sponsored" category all of "sleeping bag" (then we could allocate the specific categories first- come/first-served, e.g.), making it an easier description. > 3) Self-paying hosted at Le Camp with food at Le Camp > You just pay the prices in the "Pricing" wiki page[1] for food and > accomodation. As far as I read historical data, in the past it was possible to request either of food or accomodation sponsored. I understand that the rationale to drop that possibility is that there's no sane way to get food outside of "Le Camp" on a regular basis (+ simplicity of the registration). Though, I think letting potential attendees to get "only sponsored food" or "only sponsored accomodation" (and pay the counterpart) creates smaller "monetary contribution" steps and can help having more people contribute part of their costs. (Specifically, by not allowing upgrades, we might have people willing to pay for a better category, but not necessary willing to pay for their food). I mostly agree with the rest, so many thanks for this Gaudenz! OdyX
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