Bug#61360: marked as done (PCMCIA system left behind by base install gives problems)
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From: BROWN Nick <Nick.BROWN@coe.int>
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Subject: PCMCIA system left behind by base install gives problems
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:53:36 +0200
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Package: base
Version: 2.1
I installed Debian on a laptop (for the first time; I've done lots of
desktop installs). At the end of the installation, as usual, it said "looks
like you're done with PCMCIA - shall I remove it ?". I thought, well,
actually, I plan to use PCMCIA cards, so I said no.
Then I had lots of problems. Inserted cards would hang the PC, or be
recognised but fail to work, etc. I thought, there is no way this can be a
real problem.
Eventually I found it: I reinstalled pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules-2.0.36,
and everything is fine. The modules now have the date of 1999-02-25 -
previously, they were dated 1999-01-xx.
So, my suggestion is to remove the pcmcia modules without asking at the end
of the installation, to force people to reinstall them; or, to provide (in
the base system) modules which will work with the 2.0.36 kernel which is
installed.
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France
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To: BROWN Nick <Nick.BROWN@coe.int>
Cc: 61360-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#61360: PCMCIA system left behind by base install gives pr oblems
References: <[🔎] 435C366F075ED211B12200204840172D019C30D9@PETITSUIX>
From: Adam Di Carlo <adam@onshore.com>
Date: 02 Apr 2000 16:34:22 -0400
In-Reply-To: BROWN Nick's message of "Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:47:33 +0200"
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BROWN Nick <Nick.BROWN@coe.int> writes:
> >I don't see how you can be using the latest slink boot-floppies --
> >those use the kernel and modules for 2.0.38.
>
> I'm using a slink CD set from last year April/May. I don't know exactly
> which base system is in there. But I don't think the average first-time
> installer should need to know this either.
I understand. But bug-reporters need to know more. I cannot
determine responsibility for this bug.
> >Why would this be more helpful than just telling the use to run
> >'apt-get upgrade' or something?
> >I don't like doing wierd things to hack around problems...
>
> I just think it would be helpful if the message reminded relative newcomers
> such as myself, that since the version of the kernel which has just been
> installed (2.0.36 in my case) is not the same as the version used during the
> boot process, that it's not a good idea to leave the PCMCIA modules lying
> around.
Generally, the kernel from the distribution *is* the same as the
kernel in the boot-floppies.
> Currently the message makes you think, "hold on - why does it say
> it's no longer needed ? I have a PCMCIA slot. I'll keep it".
>
> I think just an extra bit of text on the "uninstall PCMCIA ?" message, such
> as "you can keep the PCMCIA modules which were used for installation, but we
> STRONGLY RECOMMEND that you reinstall pcmcia-cs and pcmcia-modules-`umode
> -v`" would be more helpful. I don't think anything more than a slight
> strengthening of the message is required. (Forcing the uninstall would be
> more radical, but involve software changes, which I agree is not a good
> thing at this stage.)
This message has been gutted and replaced in the Potato boot-floppies.
Please test the potato versions (frozen) and see if it meets your
needs. If not, then file a bug against base-config.
> Maybe with a 2.2 kernel with PCMCIA built-in, this
> problem won't occur anyway.
No, your thinking 2.4 kernel where PCMCIA is built in.
I'm closing this bug, because (a) there is no current, official Debian
slink CDs which use 2.0.36, and (b) the message about removing PCMCIA
has been changed in Potato boot-floppies.
In short, there is nothing in the bug report which applies to the
Potato boot-floppies. I do encourage you to test the frozen
boot-floppies and file bugs for stuff like this that you think could
be better.
--
.....Adam Di Carlo....adam@onShore.com.....<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>
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