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Re: Packages removed from frozen



On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 05:34:14PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>         I still say the dispensation should not be lightly given -- it
>  should only be given where strictly necesary. 
As it is in all the circumstances that have been discussed here.

>  I have, however,
>  amended my stance about restricting it to build depends (not that
>  there was any attempt at dialogue -- people muist reaaaaly like flame
>  fests here).

You started out by saying we should remove any bootstrapping packages.*
As someone who uses GNAT and SML extensively, such a threat is rather 
disturbing. 

* "Programs need dispension" && "dispension will only be given for
build-essentials" => "programs not in build-essentials will be be
removed"

>         Rather than jumping on details, did you even try to see if
>  xomething weorkable could be wrought out fo this? Hell, no.
Did you start out with something workable? Hell, no.

>  David> ~ $ fgrep -i doc original_message
>  David> A bug in the code is worth two in the documentation.
>  David> ~ $
> 
>         Right. You really need things spelled out for you.

You didn't mention documentation in the original. You said they
shouldn't be in Debian. Or is English not your first language?

>  David> No one's opposed to documenting these packages, but it doesn't
>  David> really matter to most of us. 
> 
>         That has been eminently clear. However, I suggest that the
>  project give two hoots about security.

How about the fact that you download binary packages all the time,
without any proof that it's not a trojan? It would be so simple to
build your binary upload from a source you weren't planning to upload.
Why should I trust Joe Random Debian Developer over Ada Core Technologies
or Lucent Technologies? Not to offend any developers, but you're the paranoid
security person. Why doesn't this passionately worry you?

-- 
David Starner - dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org
Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with
square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are.
   -- Dr. Burchard, math professor at OSU


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