Re: social contract
>> Now I hear sysvinit is also being kept private.
>
> I find this hard to belive, since Miquel van Smoorenburg is the author
> of sysvinit and also happens to be the debian developer in charge of
> it for debian. And the upstream sysvinit package happens to build into
> the debian package with absolutely no modifications, in fact.
>
>> Is it really that hard to upload to sunsite.unc.edu and
>> tsx-11.mit.edu in standard .tar.gz format?
>
> Not hard at all. We do that. Take a look:
>
> joey@kite:/tmp>ftp sunsite.unc.edu
> ...
> ftp> cd /pub/Linux/distributions/debian/dists/stable/main/source/base
>
> 250 CWD command successful.
> ftp> ls sysvinit*
> 200 PORT command successful.
> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
> -r--r--r-- 1 67 1002 503 May 14 1997 sysvinit_2.71-2.dsc
> -r--r--r-- 1 67 1002 96495 May 14 1997 sysvinit_2.71-2.tar.gz
> 226 Transfer complete.
>
> You will find all of debian's sources on sunsite, in readily available
> .tar.gz form, or as standard diff's if we needed to make patches.
That is better than I had heard, though I would expect to find
it in /public/ftp/pub/Linux/system/daemons/init. In that directory
I find sysvinit-2.64.tar.gz, which is what non-debian people are
most likely to download. It is dated 5Jul96, which is very old.
Perhaps you could ask the sunsite (and tsx-11?) maintainers
to remove sysvinit-2.64.tar.gz and put a README there instead.
Then debian people wouldn't need to update that location and
other Linux users wouldn't occasionally be shocked to discover
that sysvinit (and other packages?) are hidden among the debian
files. This kind of thing tends to look like "screw the rest of
the Linux world".
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