On 6 Nov 1998, Rob Browning wrote: rlb>Overall the learning curve for getting this stuff right for new Bash/X rlb>users is fairly steep ATM, and some of it (at least the umask/--login rlb>and PATH/--login stuff) is both undocumented, and a bit unexpected, at rlb>least by me. I never figured all this out. John Lapeyre <lapeyre@physics.arizona.edu> Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre