Re: Are DFSG free package in non-us part of Debian?

[joostje@debian.org]

>  Martin> Since it cannot redistributed by a US citizen to a non-us citizen
>  Martin> it is not *perfectly* free.
> 
> 	Oh bullshit. What makes the US government the deciding
>  authority? What if Saddam Hussein decides that vi is not
>  freely importable into IRAQ, you shall decide vi is not free? Why
>  does the US government have that kind of control over Debian? 

Hear, Hear, Hear!!!

> 
> 	We may need to move our archives to a free country before we
>  can technically have packages in US/main depend on packages in
>  non-US/main

Excactly. And then we need to rename non-US to non-Crytpo, as even now
the site is named incorrectly (there are also states that ban crypto outside the US).


>  but this crap about the US being the center of the
>  universe makes my skin crawl.

It's irritating me endlessly too.

> 	This may be news to you, folks, but the united states of
>  america is not the center of the known universe. Get over it.

But for those US-centric debianners, that seems to be hard to
get used to. So, let's give them a different slogan:

**  The US is the center of the non-free world  **

Do you (US) lot get it? You are _not_ the center of the
world, just the center of the non-free world.
 
> 	Rubbish. Just move master to a free country. I am sure we can
>  achieve that, eventually.

I'm sure all we need to do is send out a call for hardware (if we even need to
do that), and we'll move master in no time.

So, after we moved master into the free world, we just label every crypto package
and for example setup a non-crypto section on that site, filled with symlinks to
the real distribution, but _without_ the symlinks pointing to crypto packages. Then
mirrors in the center of the non-free world (US) can mirror from there.
(This should probably be improved somewhat, but the idea is clear I hope)


joost witteveen
joosteto@esperanto.nu