Re: [Re: Nomination talks] IRC is unacceptable
On Sun, Dec 13, 1998 at 01:07:55PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 13, 1998 at 03:52:12PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 1998 at 12:37:28 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> > > Sorry, but IRC is the best way to see what a person is really like
> >
> > I'm not sure I agree with this. I think it is more like: IRC, being much
> > more closer to synchronous communication, offers a different perspective on
> > what a person is like than what you get from email alone.
>
> Well, it's my opinion that real time conversation can show you alot more
> than email. When you put some one on the spot you have a chance to see
> what they are made of, pressure them, till they break down into tears and
> cuddle up into a fetal position in the nearest corner.
>
> Over email ppl have time to think things out, come up with the answers
> that can get them out of a bad spot and formulate replies which can lead
> you to think they were right all along (how many times have you forgotten
> what some one said at the beggining of a thread and had to go back and
> look).
Email usually gives people time to check their spelling, grammar, and
ideas before sending them. I see nothing wrong with this.
>
> > Speaking for myself, I'm not a native speaker of English. Although I have
> > the impression that my level of English is acceptable, I find it often
> > easier to express myself over mail than on IRC, as with mail I have time to
> > think about how I want to phrase things, which takes away some of the
>
> Getting your ideas across clearly and without error is something that
> everyone has problems with :) Email or writing is the best way to handle
> things that require strict interpretation. Even the best english speakers
> sound kind of illiterate on IRC sometimes (i have a bad case of my fingers
> disappearing when important letters are needed).
While no credible argument has been tendered for eliminating IRC,
please be considerate of the fact that some of us have many other
things in our lives besides Debian. All of these activities are
important to us. We don't need to rank them. Speaking for myself, I
don't have time to chat on IRC. I don't even have enough time for the
megabytes of email I receive. I'm saving these long election threads
until the nominations are closed and we can square the corners for
debate. Then, I will expect to see well thought and well written
statements by the candidates over a field of topics the electorate
chooses.
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