Re: /opt (Re: Berlin & FSSTND/FHS)
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Russell Coker wrote:
> >I still wonder over that one... FHS 2.0 said /opt is being used on
> >Solaris (for example) but it doesn't go into specifics.
> >
> >Now what if Sun installs anything into /opt? Do they? If so, why
> >can't we?
>
> I've got access to some Solaris 2.6 machines. I've got a machine
> with 4 /opt/SUN* directories, one with 3, and a few with 7. Each
> /opt/SUN* directory corresponds to one Solaris package.
>
> In Sun machines you install significant applications in /opt because:
> 1A) The package manager isn't much good and you will often want to
> hack things around yourself.
My experience is the Solaris package manager is quite good.
> 2) Most applications aren't in a package format. For example Ingres
> is in a single TAR archive which needs at least two passes to
> extract the files (you extract the install/ directory and let the
> install program extract the rest). Ingres should be shipping as a
> Solaris package for Sun architecture and Debian or RPM packages for
> Linux. So the only way to remove Ingres is "rm -rf /opt/ingres".
Agreed.
> 3) /usr/local gets too crowded with GNU stuff to be useful to the
> administrator who would otherwise put things they compile themself
> in there. GNU software binaries for Solaris comes in two forms.
> One form is in /opt/FSF* (which requires adding all of /opt/FSF*/bin
> to your path or lots of sym-links). The other is having everything
> in /usr/local.
I don't understand this.
I've used the /opt approach to packaging quite successfully for both
Debian and Solaris. I don't believe this thread has identified the
significant advantages which I believe to be:
* Very simple to provide multiple versions of the same package.
In software development, it is often important to have a number
of previous versions of libraries and utilities available for
regression testing. The "alternatives" approach simply doesn't
scale.
* Finer control on file sharing of package.
With all packages installed in /usr, no control is available as
to which packages you would want to make available through the
network. With the opt approach this again is trivial.
I realize there are tradeoffs with the /opt approach but I have
found it to be an effective approach for large packages.
--
Jean Pierre
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