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Re: support for merged /usr in Debian



On 2016-01-01 13:39:35, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 12:23:20PM +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> > md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> > > Thanks to my conversion program in usrmerge there is no need for a flag
> > > day, archive rebuilds or similar complexity and we can even continue to
> > > support unmerged systems.
> > 
> > Is there any use case that requires supporting unmerged systems?
> 
> I don't think so.  You already need the / filesystem, and with today storage
> sizes, if you can hold that, you can hold the whole system, period.  Even on
> any embedded that can run Debian.
> 
> The last time I've seen a split done due to small / was Maemo ten years ago.
> And guess what?  They didn't use / vs /usr but hacked something where both /
> and /usr were on the small mmc while big /opt hold most of the files, with
> symlinks from /usr.  That's because their needs were different from those of
> Ken Thompson in 1971.
> 
> A reasonable and often important split is keeping /+/usr apart from a box's
> main purpose, be it /home, /srv or /var/lib/postgresql -- but in any case
> both / and /usr will be on the same filesystem.
> 
> Thus, I'd say /usr is pointless on any machine we can reasonably support.

I respectfully disagree. Having / contain basically only /etc means we
finally have a full separation between configuration (/), binaries
(/usr) and state (/var), which opens up some interesting options in the
field of large-scale virtualisation.

regards,
iustin

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