Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations
On 2014-12-03 11:56, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 23:01 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
>> [...]
Hi,
> Attached is a svn diff for the release-notes. Comments are welcomed.
>
Thanks, find my remarks interleaved in the patch.
> Regarding the Installation guide for the second hunk, where to get that
> stuff?
>
I believe it is a real package (compared to the release-notes, which is
"just" a pseudo-package).
> Thanks!
>
>
> en_issues.dbk.patch
>
>
> Index: en/issues.dbk
> ===================================================================
> --- en/issues.dbk (revision 10513)
> +++ en/issues.dbk (working copy)
> @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@
> role="package">sysvinit-core</systemitem> or <systemitem
> role="package">upstart</systemitem>, it is recommended to setup
> APT pinning prior to the upgrade. As an example, to prevent
> - <systemitem role="package">systemd</systemitem> from being
> + <systemitem role="package">systemd-sysv</systemitem> from being
Indeed, the package name is systemd-sysv.
Though perhaps we should change it to "systemd" without marking it as
a package. I presume that the user/admin is less interested in the
actual package name and more in the name of the init system.
> installed during the upgrade, you can create a file called
> <filename>/etc/apt/preferences.d/local-pin-init</filename> with
> the following contents:
> @@ -193,12 +193,16 @@
> Pin: release o=Debian
> Pin-Priority: -1
> </screen>
> - <caution>
> - <para>
> - Be advised that some packages may have degraded behaviour or
> - may be lacking features under a non-default init system.
> - </para>
> - </caution>
I am not too happy with pushing the <caution> down. To be honest, I
have been considering to push it "up".
> + <note>
I am not entirely convinced this should be a "<note>" rather than a
"<para>".
> + It is also good to install
It is also a good idea to install ...?
> + <systemitem role="package"> sysvinit-core, sysvint and sysvinit-utils
> + </systemitem> as the first packages when upgrading. In case
> + you want an <emphasis>as-systemd-free-as-possible</emphasis>
Not sure why the emphasis here. To be honest, the sentence strikes me
as a bit odd (and possibly a bit long). Maybe just add it to the list
above or simply just:
"""If you have a desktop environment installed, it is also recommended
to install systemd-shim to assist apt or/and aptitude with the upgrade
path."""
> + desktop environment, it is also recommended to install <systemitem
> + role="package">systemd-shim</systemitem> in order to
> + help apt and aptitude to avoid installing systemd-sysv and
> + other *systemd* components, unintentionally.
^^^^^^^^^
Why the "*X*"? We got <emphasis> if you want to highlight. Then again,
see my previous remark about the entire sentence.
>[...]
>
Thanks for considering,
~Niels
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