Re: Work on a centralized infrastructure for i18n/l10n
- To: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org
- Subject: Re: Work on a centralized infrastructure for i18n/l10n
- From: Eddy Petrişor <eddy.petrisor@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:34:22 +0200
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> > - a way for translation teams to decide how the review process of new
> > translations is done ("needs 1 review", "needs X reviews", "does not need
> > review")
PRESENT in transdict
> > - a way to detect consistency in translations (same term translated
PRESENT in transdict (iirc)
>
> I would like to add the idea of trying to "compare" strings, AFAIK
> kbabel work like this, it is able to do some "approach" in the string
> comparison.
PRESENT in transdict (iirc)
> We could also think about a dict interface (it was suggested
> in another thread) integrated, we can define the codes, abbreviations
> and other itens that we are going to use.
expandable
> > - a way to automatically extract (from packages, CVS or SVN) and update
> > the po's we use in Debian:
> > * po-debconf
> > * po-xml (some documents)
> > * po-ddtp?
partly PRESENT in transdict
> > - a way to work with things that are not po files:
> > * wml files
> > * some documents (XML or SGML)
> > * manpages
partly PRESENT in transdict (no wml, afair)
> > - a way for translators to disable Pottle-managed translations
> > (I don't understand why, for example the spanish translation of Gaim
> > is in Pootle, I never asked for it and don't use it)
I don't understand the scenario...
> > So what we might need is a pootle instance running in Debian servers,
> > customised for the project and managed (database and server) by the DSA so
> > proper permissions can be given to i18n teams.
>
> We should also add some workflow requirements which could impact
> the framework development. The most important part looks like is the
> - - contributores should be able to work online and offline
both PRESENT in transdict
> The concept of DDTP sounds interesting to the offline part, together
> with the pseudo-urls model, which brings the ability to avoid double
> work (ITT,ITR)
transdict could be modified for this purpose
> - - package descriptions
> Are we able to work in the packages translations (for apt-like tools)
> after a release? Or we should only work in sid? Could we integrate
> this "automagically" in the framework? :)
must be added to transdict
> - - unified statistics and reports
> Bring all the statistics to a central place, with reports of what
> is "on hold" (ITT,ITR), pending translations, outdated and manuals
> like D-I and DDP. We should really try to get everything together.
PRESENT in transdict (per language statistics - i.e. one transdict
instalation/language, but different databases could be queried to
generate global statistics)
> I really don't know about the Copyright impacts in translations. We
> should also be ready to track contributions and state clear the license
> model of the translated contributions (if it already exists, sorry, I didn't
> found it). :o)
usually it is the same license as the targeted app/manual/doc, but you
are right, this is a sensitive point (forced declaration of the
license - at upload time or something could provide the support for
this)
> One of my ideas with the framework is that we can bring up a common
> policy for i18n/l10n, being very flexible with l10n team, but very well
> structured with i18n debian common infrastructure.
Please contact the main transdict's main developer:
"Denis Lackovic"
- <delacko at gmail.com>
- <delacko fly.srk.fer.hr>
Let me shout again: TRANSDICT has *many* of the NEEDED features
ALREADY IMPLEMENTED!
--
Regards,
EddyP
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