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Re: PHP4 + ApacheVirtualHosts + SUEXEC



Thank you for the explanation, I now have a much better understanding of how
Apache works.  After a bit more digging around on the web I also found this
discussion thread with some responses from Rasmus Lerdorf (regarding php3
and a few years old, but it still seems to be relevant).

http://lists.omnipotent.net/php3/199808/thrd3.html#00464

Now I'm curious as to how Apache 2.0 works and how it deals with these
issues.

Thanks again

eirik

on 1/4/01 4:36 PM, Sickboy at sd209@hszk.bme.hu wrote:

> Eirik Dentz wrote:
>> 
>> Nonetheless it leaves me very curious as to why the PHP
>> module is built this way.
> 
> I guess it is just the way apache works.
> Having something (anything) as a module means having the code in apache
> itself. Every httpd child process has the code in it.
> 
> When you run a CGI, the httpd child process forks and calls suexec.
> (or sbox or any other replacement for suexec in terms of cgi wrapper)
> suexec changes uid/gid, NOT THE HTTPD CHILD PROCESS!
> 
> To run a module (e.g. the PHP interpreter built as a module) as another user,
> the httpd child process has to change to the specified uid/gid (!) and then
> back (!).
> If a process can change its uid/gid back to the original uid/gid then it
> hardly makes any sense to change uid/gid at all.
> 
> I could imagine a httpd that forks a new child on each new request and the
> child changing to the uid/gid specified for the VW and finally dying when
> the request is processed, but this would probably mean performance issues..
> 
> Anyway, it boils down to apache not working this way.
> 
>> I've never actually used them so please pardon my ignorance,
>> but does using mod_perl with Mason to embed perl code in
>> HTML cause a similar problem with suexec?
> 
> Having said all this, I would say yes.
> (But I've never used/seen this either.)
> 
> 
> .SiCk of IT.
> 
> 
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