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Bug#820350: libreoffice: Packaging LibreOfice Still for stable branch of the Debian



notfound 820350 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u3
tag 820350 + wontfix
thanks

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 08:07:48PM +0300, Stanislav Fyodorov wrote:
> LibreOffice is developing rapidly. Unfortunately, not all fixes are
> ported back.

True.

That's why jessie-backports has 5.1.1 right now (ok, not Still but Fresh.)

 libreoffice | 1:5.1.1-1~bpo8+1               | jessie-backports         | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x

> A similar situation exists in other popular packages. Look how it is
> proposed to package Firefox ESR (life cycle of 9 months) for Debian
> stable (life cycle of about two years).
> 
> "Mozilla releases new Firefox releases every 6 to 8 weeks.
> In parallel of these rapid releases, Mozilla proposes a version called
> ESR which is maintained for about 9 months.
> On the contrary, Debian having a longer release cycle (about every two
> years), release cycles don't align.
> Because of the complexity of backporting security fixes, Debian cannot
> maintain a deprecated ESR release.

Yes, and this problem doesn't exist for LO. We *do* get the security patches
in patch form and apply them on stable. While firefox doesn't and thus ESR
is the only way to get them properly.

> To address this packaging issue, once a ESR cycle is over, Debian has
> been accepting uploads of new ESR releases in the stable release." [1]
> 
> Is it possible to offer something like this for LibreOffice Still and
> Debian stable branch?

Theoretically yes. Practicably no.

and I consider the firefox situation suboptimal. Stuff changes, library
dependecies changes, you need newer ones (which change SONAME and become
incompatible to old ones, etc)

No idea how iceweasel handles it. Either that doesn't happen or it uses (I fear
that that is the case mostly) internal copies of the libraries.

I can live with jessie-backports using internal copies of those, but that is
not something for stable.

If you want/need something newer, use backports[1]. That's what it's for.
(Firefox is also provided in the same way, though on mozilla.debian.net)

Regards,

Rene


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