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Re: identical extended descriptions



Martin Mitchell wrote:
> > The long description is there for a reason, and I feel these packages are
> > ignoring it it. The libc5 versions should explain, in detail, why you
> > might want to install those packages over the non-libc5 versions. An extended
> > description should be a hand-crafted description of a package, not some
> > boilerplate you've used for 4 different packages.
> 
> I think this is overreacting a little - I wouldn't want to have to read
> through pages of long descriptions to see why I might wish to install a
> libc5 version, one or two sentences should be more than adequate.

I wasn't meaning to imply vast length.

> In general, I haven't seen that this problem is widespread to warrant a
> policy proposal, so I suggest you file a bug against the netscape packages,
> and handle this issue on a case by case basis.

This is *not* a small problem. It is an epidemic. One package in 17 has the
problem!

Packages exhibiting this problem, by md5sum of their long descriptions
(note that this probably misses some that have long descriptions that
vary by 1 letter or so):

joey@kite:/tmp/desc>perl -ne '$p=$1 if /^Package: (.*)\n/; $col.=$_ if $in;
$in=1 if /^Description: /; if ($_ eq "\n") { $in=""; open (OUT, ">$p") ||
die $!; print OUT $col; close OUT; $col=""}' /var/lib/dpkg/available
joey@kite:/tmp/desc>md5sum * |perl -ne '($foo)=/(.*?)\s/; $seen{$_}=1,
$seen{$fullold}=1 if $old eq $foo ; $old=$foo; $fullold=$_; END { print
keys %seen }'  |wc -l
    273
joey@kite:/tmp/desc>md5sum * |perl -ne '($foo)=/(.*?)\s/; $seen{$_}=1,
$seen{$fullold}=1 if $old eq $foo ; $old=$foo; $fullold=$_; END { print
sort keys %seen }'
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-- 
see shy jo, who hates having to grep around in the packages file time and
            time again to prove his points.


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