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Re: Licenses for non-software entities



On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 08:26:37PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 04:16:00PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >                     Licenses for non-software entities
> >                     ----------------------------------
> >                    Manoj Srivastava<srivasta@debian.org>
> >                              $Revision: 1.2 $
> 
> [...] 
> 
> > 4.2. Standards
> > --------------
> > 
> >      The bottom line with standards is that people have to accept it -- and
> >      the degree of coperation and synergy that develops when one can depend
> >      on third party code since everyone is playing by the same rules. You
> >      lose all that as soon as people start tweaking the rules around. You
> >      lose interoperability, and trust in the standard, which makes it hard
> >      for the standard to be used for the purpose it was intended. 
> > 
> >      I think that mutable strandards are an anathema: supporting a plethora
> >      of modified almost standards dilutes the benefits of a standard, the
> >      strength of a standard lies in the fact that *everyone* follows the
> >      same document. 
> > 
> >      Standards are modified by the standards body, not by any tom dick, or
> >      harry that comes along. How would things be if Debian modifies the
> >      FHS, and so does Red Hat, and caldera an so. We all have our own FHS,
> >      and now none of the distributions are using compatible file layouts. 
> > 
> >      Just look at what happens when standards are not immutable: MS
> >      embracing java, and then extending it, and essentially breaking the
> >      write once, run anywhere promise of the standard. Modifying standards,
> >      in my opinion, hurts the software community worse than proprietary,
> >      non free software does. It divides us, and lowers the efficacy of the
> >      standardizing effort. 
> > 
> >      Standards are not improved by generating a gazilion sets of documents,
> >      confusing what exactly the standard says, and then converging the
> >      standard back. Standards bodies *do* look at non-conformant
> >      implemntations and applications, and use prior art to amend or enhance
> >      the next version; but never have I heard any standards body taking in
> >      an bastardized version and incorporating it into the next standard. 
> > 
> >      As the community benefits from the wide dissemination and use of
> >      standards, which allows authors to synergistically build upon each
> >      others works, and the community suffers from the spread of a subtly or
> >      drastically different copies of what purports to be a standards
> >      dcument, I think we should actually frown on mutable standards. 
> > 
> >      So, I oppose penalizing standards documents that prohibit change in
> >      content. I guess translations, or format changes, should be
> >      acceptable. 
> 
> We must not save the file, we must save the information of the file.
> 
> Fixing simple grammatical or spelling errors are ok. (my optinion)
> Also translation into another language or in another format (gif->jpg,
> latex->tex). But the information (the content for the user of the file) must
> be the same.
> 
> In some file-format you can write a program (postcript, word-files,
> excel-files, StarOffice-files, siag-files). If in the program part of the files 
> a bug, it must be allowed to fix the bug without change the information for
> the user. I am right?
> 
> Also tom dick or harry must be allowed to make a new proposel of the standard.
> Get the file, change the content and distribute it to the public as a proposel
> of the next version of the standard or of a new standard.
> 
> Is this all ok?
> 
> 
> This proposel is a good start for a non-software Debian Guidelines.
> Thank you Manoj.
> 
> Grisu

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