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Bug#868728: cups requires do lpadmin configuration to share printers



On 2017-07-18 23:17:10, Brian Potkin wrote:
> On Tue 18 Jul 2017 at 14:43:19 -0400, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
>
>> On 2017-07-18 17:19:08, Brian Potkin wrote:
>> 
>> https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#Double_Filtering
>> 
>> Reading that section just makes me more confused - while I am sure I
>> could spend the next 15 minutes trying to understand all the subtleties
>> of the CUPS internals, I fail to see how users are expected to learn
>> that stuff just to share printers over the network.
>
> Users are not sharing printers. You (and your server) are.

I don't get this. I am not a user?

And I would argue this is not a "server": it's my workstation, to which
a printer is connected. I just want to share that printer.

>> I don't understand the trade-offs here: why isn't "raw" processing
>> the default? What's the downside, if it allows automatic remote printing
>> configurations?
>
> The problem appears to be you have a client which isn't doing raw
> processing. Sort them out,

Is that normal behavior? Or is this a symptom of some (possible
deliberate) misconfiguration on that client?

>> If I need to install cups-browsed on the client, why isn't that
>> installed by default?
>
> It is recommended by cups-daemon, so it is hard to avoid unless you
> choose to. 

Understood.

>> It certainly seems to me that we expect way too much of our poor
>> users. I've been using Debian for over a decade, and I've been a DD for
>> years now, and I took my about 30 minutes to figure out how to make this
>> work. I consider myself lucky that I find the magic incantation at all,
>> and would be very surprised if a normal user would manage to fix this on
>> their own.
>> 
>> I guess one thing remains unclear to me: is remote printing automatic
>> configuration supposed to work without commandline intervention right
>> now? Or are we expected to switch the queue to raw mode on the server
>> when we want to share printers? It seemed to me this was the issue here,
>> but maybe that assumption is flawed...
>
> Remote printing works out of the box without commandline intervention.

Thanks for the clarification,

a.

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