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Bug#829027: [jwilk@debian.org: Re: Bug#829027: libstroke: missing/obsolete coypright information]



Hi Sean,

I honestly have no recollection of the order of events.

Looking around quickly I think the URL in the copyright file should have been www.etla.net/libstroke, which certainly appears to have been valid at the time of upload:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011217134508/http://www.etla.net/libstroke/

The etla.net home page seems to have stopped mentioning libstroke in early 1999, after the first upload of libstroke.
https://web.archive.org/web/19990208013017/http://www.etla.net/





regards,

Hamish

On 01/07/16 09:50, Sean Whitton wrote:
Dear Hamish,

I'm sorry to bother you about a package you have orphaned, but do you
recall where you downloaded the original sources for libstroke?

In the copyright file you said that you got them from etla.org, but per
the below e-mail, they weren't available from etla.org at the time you
uploaded the package to Debian.  Did you download them in 1999 and then
just not get around to uploading until 2002?

Hopefully we don't have an unfixable RC bug here.

Thanks!

----- Forwarded message from Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org> -----

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 01:19:23 +0200
From: Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org>
To: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>, 829027@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
Subject: Re: Bug#829027: libstroke: missing/obsolete coypright information
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23.1 (2014-03-12)
Message-ID: <20160630231923.GA2260@jwilk.net>

* Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>, 2016-06-30, 14:34:
The Debian policy manual says:

"In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources
(if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors."
This clause is made up of two requirements:

1. "the copyright file must say where the upstream sources ... were
obtained"

2. "the copyright file ... should name the original authors"

libstroke does not violate the first requirement: the copyright file
does say where the upstream sources /were/ obtained, even though they
can no longer be obtained there.
According to archive.org, http://www.etla.net/ stopped mentioning libstroke
somewhere between February and March 1999. The current upstream release was
first uploaded in 2002, when the link was already invalid.

I thought that it would still be needed as long as the package is in
Debian (so that users could check too) so that the location should
implicitly still be valid.
No, there's no such requirement.



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