Bug#728523: kdelibs-bin conflict with kdelibs4c2a prevents use of older kde programs
On 02/11/2013 18:01, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 02 November 2013 11:50:37 bns_robson wrote:
Package: kdelibs-bin
Version: 4:4.10.5-1+b1
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable
nb I've selected severity grave as this bug renders kdelibs4c2a (and
everything that depends on it) unusable, not because it makes kdelibs-bin
unusable.
kdelibs4c2a is a part of kde3 and is required by kde3 programs. It was last
shipped by debian as part of squeeze. Neither the kdelibs-bin in squeeze
or the kdelibs-bin in wheezy conflicts with kdelibs4c2a. However, the
current kdelibs-bin in jessie does conflict with kdelibs4c2a which prevents
the use of kde3 programs on jessie.
I've looked at
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/kdelibs-bin/filelist
http://packages.debian.org/jessie/i386/kdelibs-bin/filelist
and the conflict appears to have been added as two files
(/usr/bin/kmailservice and /usr/bin/ktelnetservice) have been introduced
which already exist in
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/i386/kdelibs4c2a/filelist
On previous occasions instead of introducing a conflict a '4' was added to
the filename e.g /usr/bin/kshell4 to avoid a conflict with /usr/bin/kshell
thereby allowing the continued use of kde3 programs.
I'd like kdelibs-bin in jessie changed so that it uses filenames
/usr/bin/kmailservice4 and /usr/bin/ktelnetservice4, thereby removing the
conflict and allowing the use of old kde3 programs on jessie.
Pino has marked this bug as wishlist, but I think it should be simply closed
as invalid. We do not support KDE3 nor it's related apps anymore since a long
time ago.
Having to rename binaries causes more burdens on the maintainer's side,
diverging from upstream for little to no gain.
Kinds regards, Lisandro.
I understand that KDE3 programs are nolonger supported. However, I think there is a
difference between not supporting KDE3 programs and making a change that prevents
the use KDE3 programs.
I was suprised that when previously programs (e.g. kshell -> kshell4) have had a '4'
added, this didn't happen with kmailservice and ktelnetservice.
As only renaming the files in debian and not in upsteam places a burden on debian's
maintainers, perhaps the upsteam maintainers need asking if they will make the
change.
I see from http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting that debian prefers that users
don't file
bugs with upstream and expects, if necessary, the maintainer of the package will
forward
the bug upstream.
Will the debian maintainer ask upstream to rename the files or should I do this?
Bruce
p.s. I don't have any KDE3 programs that I NEED to run. It just that I prefer
kpdf as it runs
faster than okular on old, slow hardware.
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