Hi, Sorry for the delayed answer, also to Sam's original question. On 25-02-2023 17:52, Guillem Jover wrote:
On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 09:47:59 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:Ah, was wondering the same few days before the toolchain freeze, as I was unsure whether to update some of the packages I maintain (in particular libmd, for which I was thinking of doing a new upstream release), and was also checking hints for explicit blocks. See below…Could we get an answer to the below question? I'm currently uncertain how to proceed with libmd as I have pending to do an upstream release with targeted fixes, and have several packaging fixes too. And depending on the answer below I'd either discard one or both, and request or not a pre-approval unblock, or forget about it. I've also just pondered simply requesting a pre-approval unblock, given that to me libmd seems clearly to be in the essential-set now, but… :) (I don't greatly mind the answer, say "yes, they should be but because they were not included we will include them on the next freeze", or "yes, they should be considered", or "no, they are not", or anything else, I'm more interested on knowing how to proceed to get this off the back of my head. :)
I would hope that [1] describes what we're looking for with this list: """Debian has quite some packages that influence the content of packages and how they are built, i.e. most packages that are part of (build-)essential and other toolchain packages. The impact of bugs in these packages can take a lot of time to resolve because it requires figuring out which packages are affected and how they need to be rebuild after the bug itself is fixed. Therefore, changes to these kind of packages are no longer appropriate.
"""The policy goes on with saying that that definition is (slightly) vague. What we are trying to avoid is changes to packages that influence the content of (lots of) binaries when build. I'm now realizing that our hard-coded list might be including a bit more (mostly libraries) packages than we really mean, but from our perspective that would be erring on the safe side and I think quite some work to understand how each of these is influencing the build in order to remove them from that list.
And yes, pre-depends was missing from the list; when I add it, libmd0 shows up. I'll hopefully update the list shortly (after a bit more checking on the additions and the MR).
As with all our rules, there's room for exceptions (decreasing while we progress towards the release), so please show the proposed changes with taking all of the above in mind (and maybe after reading our unblock FAQ [2]) if you believe you can justify the upload.
[1] https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html#transition [2] https://release.debian.org/testing/FAQ.html Paul
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