In article <[🔎] 20030925221609.GB26731@ildicow.saturnus.vein.hu> you wrote: > We can see it the other way: why bother the user with the details > of running a service if the clued ones can easily stop or disable > the installed daemons until they are configured properly? We scare because we care. Greetings Bernd -- eckes privat - http://www.eckes.org/ Project Freefire - http://www.freefire.org/