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Re: boot-floppies dselect acquisition methods



On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:05:34 +0000, Enrique Zanardi <ezanardi@ull.es> said:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 09:58:04PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
>> Then where do ftp, http, and ??? come from?

> On boot-floppies 2.1.x only apt provides those. (On 2.0.x there was
> dpkg-ftp).

Oh, um, you mean that ftp and http were pulled...!

> ftp and http are not on the current (2.1.5) base system. May I add
> them (again)?

Geeze, I dunno.  The rumor I heard was that ftp (from dftp, right?)
supports authenticating FTP proxies, and apt decidedly does not.  In
which case that might be a candidate for being reinstated.

Does the http option have anything over apt?

Here's the list again, and remember, this is obviously out of date:
(doh! sorry)

>   cdrom          Install from a CD-ROM.
> * multi_cd       Install from a CD-ROM set.
>   nfs            Install from an NFS server (not yet mounted).
>   multi_nfs      Install from an NFS server (using the CD-ROM set) (not yet m
ounted).
>   harddisk       Install from a hard disk partition (not yet mounted).
>   mounted        Install from a filesystem which is already mounted.
>   multi_mount    Install from a mounted partition with changing contents.
>   mountable      Install from a partition named in fstab
>   floppy         Install from a pile of floppy disks.
>   ftp            Install using ftp.
>   http           Install using http:, ftp:, and file: URLs.
>   apt            APT Acquisition [file,http,ftp]

Just to start us off again, here's my *guess* at what should be
removed, and why.  By 'obsoleted' below I mean, provides no features
not already provided by another, more fully-featured alternative.

Removal candidates:

  mounted	(dpkg)
	uses dpkg -iGROEB, suboptimal ordering, obsoleted by better methods,
	namely, apt or multi_mount

  harddisk	(dpkg)
	uses dpkg -iGROEB, suboptimal ordering, obsoleted by better methods,
	namely, apt or multi_mount

  cdrom		(dpkg)
	uses dpkg -iGROEB, suboptimal ordering, obsoleted by better methods,
	namely, multi_cd or apt, we don't ship single CD-ROMS anymore

  nfs		(dpkg)
	uses dpkg -iGROEB, suboptimal ordering, obsoleted by better methods,
	namely, apt or multi_nfs, for the latter, consistency with multi_*

  ftp		(dpkg-ftp)
	subobtimal ordering, claims to do proxy FTP, but! is broken, at least 
	for me:

	Use of uninitialized value at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/dftp.pm line 231,
          <VARS> chunk 1 (#1)
	Uncaught exception from user code:
          FATAL at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/dftp.pm line 234, <VARS> chunk 1.
	  main::loadconfig('vars') called at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup.tty 
	     line 173
          main::main('/var/lib/dpkg', 'ftp', 'ftp') called at 
	     /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/setup.tty line 215


Edgy:

  mountable	(dpkg-mountable)
	last updated 12 May 1998, tested?  obsoleted by multi_mount?


Should probably keep:

  http		(dpkg-http)
	maintainer says is obsolete in /usr/doc/dpkg-http/README.Debian:

	Package installation is unordered, which can cause difficulty
	with important system packages with predendencies.  Package
	ordering is available in APT (A Package Tool), which will
	replace dpkg-http.

	However, below:

	   HTTP Proxy firewalls are supported thanks to Greg Wooledge.
	"Authorization:" and "Proxy-Authorization:" are both supported, and
	are known to work on "ANS InterLock Proxy" and "InterLock/4.0" firewalls.

--
.....Adam Di Carlo....adam@onShore.com.....<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>


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