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Bug#564089: marked as done (texlive-latex-base: \FDP@colonspace is no longer defined in frenchb v2.3d (v2.4a is OK))



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has caused the Debian Bug report #564089,
regarding texlive-latex-base: \FDP@colonspace is no longer defined in frenchb v2.3d (v2.4a is OK)
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Package: texlive-latex-base
Version: 2009-7
Severity: normal

I've used

\makeatletter
\renewcommand{\FDP@colonspace}{\FDP@thinspace}
\makeatother

for years in my French LaTeX documents, and this no longer works
with Debian's version of frenchb:

! LaTeX Error: \FDP@colonspace undefined.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
 ...

l.10 \renewcommand{\FDP@colonspace}
                                   {\FDP@thinspace}

The consequence is that many of my LaTeX files no longer compile.

Workaround: install frenchb v2.4a from upstream:

  http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/frenchb.ldf

-- Package-specific info:
If you report an error when running one of the TeX-related binaries 
(latex, pdftex, metafont,...), or if the bug is related to bad or wrong
output, please include a MINIMAL example input file that produces the
error in your report. Don't forget to also include minimal examples of
other files that are needed, e.g. bibtex databases. Often it also helps
to include the logfile. Please, never send included pictures!

If your example file isn't short or produces more than one page of
output (except when multiple pages are needed to show the problem),
you can probably minimize it further. Instructions on how to do that
can be found at

http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini-en.html (english)

or 

http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini.html (german)

##################################
minimal input file


##################################
other files

######################################
 List of ls-R files

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1269 2010-01-05 16:18:51 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root staff 80 2010-01-05 01:42:38 /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2010-01-05 01:38:35 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXMFMAIN
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2010-01-05 16:16:50 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2010-01-05 16:16:50 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE
######################################
 Config files
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2010-01-05 01:38:35 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf -> /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6520 2010-01-05 16:18:51 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14076 2010-01-05 16:18:50 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12407 2010-01-05 16:18:51 /var/lib/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat
######################################
 Files in /etc/texmf/web2c/
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 2009-06-09 22:40:03 mktex.cnf
######################################
 md5sums of texmf.d
3875bf0f4a53a29b7f247399dc9833e2  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf
6e82a3d4c00ae7e4f86aa8dcf9438cf3  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf
c60a084820a0b73e3bfbf2e90bda437c  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/45TeXinputs.cnf
ea33127256c6a9f37145ae5b16fdb80c  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf
afccf1d3f87057411166a77c58e00bd1  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf
9da7c1c7b1eaf06f941af91f48a23068  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf
37329819f1109e8a457e64b8b58fecdb  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf
a8952d594677235951d447665ec46e9c  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/90TeXDoc.cnf
bab3b7e578107f999fa1b0768994f6f8  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.30-2-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=POSIX, LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO8859-1 (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages texlive-latex-base depends on:
ii  dpkg                          1.15.5.5   Debian package management system
ii  tex-common                    2.05       common infrastructure for building
ii  texlive-base                  2009-7     TeX Live: Essential programs and f
ii  texlive-binaries              2009-5     Binaries for TeX Live
ii  texlive-common                2009-7     TeX Live: Base component

Versions of packages texlive-latex-base recommends:
ii  texlive-latex-base-doc        2009-7     TeX Live: Documentation files for 

texlive-latex-base suggests no packages.

Versions of packages tex-common depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]         1.5.28     Debian configuration management sy
ii  dpkg                          1.15.5.5   Debian package management system
ii  ucf                           3.0025     Update Configuration File: preserv

Versions of packages texlive-latex-base is related to:
pn  tetex-base                 <none>        (no description available)
pn  tetex-bin                  <none>        (no description available)
ii  tetex-extra                2007.dfsg.2-4 TeX Live: teTeX transitional packa
ii  tex-common                 2.05          common infrastructure for building

-- debconf information:
  tex-common/check_texmf_wrong:
  tex-common/check_texmf_missing:



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Hi guys,

On Fr, 08 Jan 2010, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote:
> I beg your pardon, but why the hell are your trying to fiddle with frenchb's
> internals rather than using the provided interface?

Agreed, sorry Manuel, I was too quick to forward that.

On Fr, 08 Jan 2010, Daniel Flipo wrote:
> \FDP@colonspace is an *internal* command according to the '@' in its
> name, so it is not meant to be redefined by the end-user.

Same here, sorry Daniel and thanks for the quick answer.

On Fr, 08 Jan 2010, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> But will \renewcommand{\Fcolonspace}{\thinspace} still work in
> 10 years?

Sorry, who cares? If you want that, use plain tex. Yes that is life 
even in the TeX World. You probably can process all documents even
after loads of time, but probably they need some tweaking.

As said, only because someone suggested to you to use internal
macros does not mean it is the right way.

I am closing this bug.

Best wishes

Norbert
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