I wrote: ftp.debian.org 141.209.21.2 (currently unreachable from 141.209.15.4) (aka www.debian.org) This came across all wrong. ftp.debian.org and www.debian.org are the same ip address (141.209.21.2). 141.209.15.4 is pearce.csv.cmich.edu Sorry about the confusion. -30- Raul