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Re: A suggestion to multiply your users



Brett Pierce wrote: 
> Really looking forward to trying out this tool. Only... even though I've
> been on computers since late 1980s but I'm not a geek - but not entirely
> stupid either. Your website is really intimidating and confusing.  It's
> very geeky to me, which means to many others as well. I was able to find
> that there are two versions (at least) - one to use with Gimp, the other to
> use without it (I already use an old photoshop version CS3.)

This is not correct.

Debian is a Linux distribution -- a collection of software that
works together as a complete operating system plus applications.

In order to use it, you need to install it in such a manner that
it takes over your computer -- Windows does not run at the same
time. They can be installed together, but it is tricky.

> I'm on your
> download page for standalone. I can't find where to download. The page is,
> like your site, confusing. There are lots of individual bits and pieces to
> download - but seriously they sound like extras. But it's not clear. I'm
> struggling to download, to know what to do. I'm from outside your
> world, all those different terms are not my language. My mind just says...
> no idea what this is or whether I need it.

The simplest thing is to download a Debian Live image, which
will allow you to try out Debian without committing to a
permanent installation. You'll need to be able to burn a DVD or
have a 4GB or larger USB stick available.

The page for that is https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

and you almost certainly want to download a hybrid AMD64 image
from
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/

If you don't know which to try, get 

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-10.8.0-amd64-mate.iso

and burn it to a DVD or USB stick, then boot to it.

> 
> Can I suggest you get a straight-talking non-geek who knows nothing about
> your software and give them several scenarios (eg, A. You want to edit raw
> files for your photos. You want to download this to do it. B. You want to
> edit raw files but you already have an image editor like photoshop) and no
> help and watch them figure it out?

We understand how user experience works. You have a focus on a
particular task. Debian is a whole operating system, not just a
way to run a photo editor.

(If you just want to run GIMP, did you know that it's available
for Windows and macOS? Get it for free at https://www.gimp.org/
)

> the basis of how simple or not it is for them, redesign your site in Plain
> English, decluttered, clear instructions for the basics in big headings,
> and separate the more geeky stuff into sections with clear headings that
> help people like me to ignore it

That is probably not going to happen. While using Debian is
generally pretty easy, installing it is not -- though much
easier than it was, and certainly within the grasp of a
high-school student who is wiiling to put in the effort to read
the manual first.

That manual would be here:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/index.en.html

-dsr-


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