On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 04:54:30PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Bill Allombert dijo [Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 10:26:09PM +0100]: > > Dear Debian voters, > > > > While Debian has stakes in the CRA, and should issue a statement if > > only to show we exists, I am quite sure that a GR is not necessary for Debian > > to issue such statement, and I am quite unconvinced the GR process is the best > > option for the purpose of drafting such statement. > > > > I note that this is not the first law proposal that impact Debian and we never > > did used the GR process for issuing a position statement. > We never did _successfully_ use it. We have _tried_ to use it > (i.e. 2021_002). Sorry, I meant 'a position statement with respect to a law proposal'. > This text was in fact drafted by a lawyer (I don't know if by a _set_ > of lawyers) and discussed among DDs at several in-person meetings > before reaching this stage. I strongly advocated using the GR process, > as it has already been subjected to a long discussion, and the > timeframe for it to be usefully considered is drawing to an end. Was it drafted by a lawyer familiar with EU law ? We should have started by having a EU lawyer explaining what the CRA actually mean and proceed from that. > At this point, and in part given that GR 2021_003 introduced time > limits, I think the GR process might produce the swiftest results, and > it will yield the best legitimacy-wise (i.e. the whole project is > invited to debate and improve the proposed text, and accept it > above/below the approval threshold. But this might as well degenerate into a political referendum having little to do with Debian. As it stands we have two ballots which are similar in intent except that one is worded to be more EU-optimistic than the other. So at the end of the day, the GR will be a referral whether DDs are more EU-pessimistic or EU-optimistic. I repect my fellow DD political views, but this is not the purpose of Debian to query its members opinions about a topic¹ unrelated to the social contract. This will only fracture the project. If we want a GR, we should focus on having a single ballot option, that strive to be neutral and straight to the point. Maybe a ballot option delegating the issuing of a statement to the DPL ? ¹ especially one when we are bound to have widely different but valid views depending on where we live. Cheers, -- Bill. <ballombe@debian.org> Imagine a large red swirl here.
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