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Bug#1023154: RFP: hypnotix -- IPTV player



Il 02/11/2022 20:22, Thomas Uhle ha scritto:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022, Fabio Fantoni wrote:

Il 30/10/2022 20:20, Thomas Uhle ha scritto:
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> > Hypnotix is an application to watch TV by streaming from M3U sources. > It is primarily developed for the Cinnamon desktop in Linux Mint but could > be used in any other desktop environment as well. > I don't use an IPTV, I tried shortly kodi but I am not used enough about this type of program.

It should be seen which others are packaged in debian besides kodi (I know only it) and if hypnotix has anything better than these to determine if it is worth adding hypnotix in debian.

can you tell something about?

You are right, Kodi is a good program for watching IPTV. But it is also so much more: DVB, DLNA client as well as a client for video-on-demand or podcast services to name just a few more features. It is a full-grown media center solution and as such installs on disk with 100MB at least (not counting the various dependencies). Hypnotix has only one feature compared to Kodi that is being a simple-to-use and lean application for watching IPTV. It uses libmpv.so to seamlessly embed mpv as a player and so only needs about 1MB of extra space on disk. That means it is quite small compared to Kodi. Hypnotix can consume the same M3U lists like Kodi, so you could use one of the links provided by kodinerds.net for instance to get an up-to-date list of TV stations. IMHO the usual suspects of media players like VLC and alike are not suited for these types of M3U lists because these lists contain the URLs for many TV stations in one file whereas those media players expect that each M3U file corresponds to exactly one TV station (and different URLs just refer to streams with different resolutions, bit rates, subtitles, etc., but all for the same TV station). Moreover, those media players would not automatically update the M3U lists (which is what Hypnotix does). You would need to manually synchronize the URLs of the TV stations. In addition I think, sometimes it is just good to have an alternative, especially if there is a simple, small and ready-to-go solution for something that just works. Anyway, nobody would be asking why there are several reincarnations of GNOME's file manager Nautilus in Debian (like Caja, Nemo or Peony).


I don't see strong links with cinnamon from a quick look (the dependency with xapp is minor) so it could be maintained by another team or maintainer as well (if anyone will want maintain it)

That is right. Hypnotix is as much connected to Cinnamon as any other appliction from the XApps family (cf. xed or xviewer for instance with the corresponding RFP requests #830598 and #830616 respectively). Just because it is linked to (lib)xapp, does not mean it is needed for Cinnamon.

Thanks for the informations and from what you say it seems worth adding, but I have too few time and probably is better not maintain additional packages for me, mostly in that case that I'll not use it and where I'll need to do specific tests only for packaging/maintain it.

I specified the fact that it could be maintained by others to not block if anyone was interested but seeing the cinnamon team in the middle gave up.

About many filemanager forked by nautilus is because each is connected to a DE (also fork) and optimized for that DE.

I would prefer that there were fewer forks possible to have better supported software and not waste resources but unfortunately this is often difficult. One good example where forks was merged to join forces in one better project is memtest86+ (with pcmemtest)

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