OK, I figured out how to do this now, and yes, I am a woman, and yes, I use Debian, so yes, I qualify. S. Michelle Klein-Hass Panorama City, CA, US 366435E 3788590N >From TopoZone: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=11&n=3788590&e=366435&size=s&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25 OK, am I on the map now? :-)