Branden, Just for the record, upgrading from 4.2.1-6 to 4.2.1-6pre7v2, on a T23, resolves the savage "x-not-starting" chipset problem (Bug#182986). Thanks for the fix. Cheers Rich Wale. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com