I case nobody has noticed it: in LSB Written Specification point "7. Also missing several sections of the lsb specification" the link is broken. While reading the specs i found something missing.. Curtainly there will be a point were you cant follow the LSB as you should. the LSB must provide a point where to document that. walter -- ----- "You don't sit on the entire sum of human knowledge without learning a thing or two." -----