On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 04:29:11AM -0400, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Adam McKenna <adam-debian@flounder.net> writes: > > I don't see how the status quo is particularly bad. As several people have > > already noted, the reasons behind this proposal are mainly motivated by > > politics. > Being motivated by politics is often a noble thing. Do you think that > having principles is bad? That we should endeavor to make our > decisions in as unprincipled a manner as possible? Hurting people in blind pursuit of principles can be bad. In this case, we're harming people who use and maintain non-free software, either by making it somewhat harder to obtain the software or removing all the considerable existing infrastructure that can currently be used to help maintain non-free software. > In any case, the status quo has one serious problem: many users think > that non-free is part of Debian. In fact, the only thing about it > that is "not part of Debian" is that sentence. Then why don't we make it clearer that main and non-free aren't equal? If that's all we want to do, then we can do that without having to harm anyone. See my posts to the "Clarifications" thread for one possibility. > In all other ways, > non-free participates fully in Debian, and lots of users and many > developers think this resolution is about "removing non-free from > Debian", which implies that they think that non-free is currently in > Debian. "Removing non-free from Debian" ? That is indeed what it's about: removing all support for non-free from Debian. Just because something's not part of our official distribution doesn't mean it's not part of Debian: project/experimental, contrib, the web site are all counter examples. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG encrypted mail preferred. ``We reject: kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and working code.'' -- Dave Clark
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