Ok, this is really odd. I was running espy's glibc2.1 debs weeks before they went into potato and i never had this problem so I assume it is something else that was upgraded, sysvinit, bash? Anyway, I login with xdm, any xterm i start has a current directory of "/" instead of /home/stephenc , this is true for any app. It is really annoying, has anyone else had this problem? -- Stephen Crowley Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org