Re: debian installer accessibility for arm64
Christian,
> On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Christian Schoepplein <chris@schoeppi.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Frank and all,
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 03:05:50PM +0100, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
>> When using the arm64 installer no beep tone was played, but this might be
>> because the whole system is running in a VM. So either pressing "s" does not
>> work in the arm64 installer or we just don't know when to press the key :-).
>>
>> I'll ask my girlfriend if she can take a look or what to press to get into
>> the menu to have the accessible installer started.
>
> OK, we took a look now.
Thank her, very much, for me.
>
> When the installer is started, which happens very quick on a M1 Mac with
> UTM, the Accessibility Menu can be selected when pressing arrow down 4 times
> and then enter. Also a textbased installer is started when pressing "s".
>
> But I was not able to get speechoutput working, no matter which sound card
> I've selected for the virtual machine configuration.
I've got a very bad serial console working, that spit out just enough to show me an error that speakup_soft could not be found. I can't seem to get the serial interface working using the pseudo tty device interface. I did slightly get the tcp server serial device interface to somewhat work, in that the cursor keys do not work. I'm also having some trouble with it printing all kinds of strange characters, some incompatible character set for sure, but I don't know where to start except for throwing darts at the wall.
I grabbed the sources and had a poke around, both the utm and the utmapp fork of qemu, but I am very much having trouble groking where to find the build prefs.
>
> Braille is working when i start the normal installer, just press enter when
> the bootmanager has finished loading.
>
> When a braille device is connected to the VM and "s" is pressed in the
> bootmanager menu nothing happens, no braille, no speech.
>
> When a braille device is connected and the menu item for the accessible
> installer is selected there is also no braille and no speech.
>
> So, the only working installation method for the arm64 installer is with
> braille at the moment it seems and there are sometimes big problems with the
> output on the braille device. In many situations only parts of the different
> installation items are displayed, e.g. only three times guided and one times
> manual in the section for partitioning the harddrive, nothing about LVM,
> encryption and these things.
>
> I've used a braille device with 40 elements and I can test also with 80
> element, but I think in general the arm64 installer needs some more love to
> work as good as the installer for amd64 systems.
>
> But if you have a braille device and if you know how to install Debian and
> know the substeps of the installationprocess a little bit, installing an
> arm64 system is possible.
My braille device, the Brailliant 40 is acting up at the moment. I need a new Braille display.
>
> I can also upload a preconfigured VM with speech support enabled and brltty
> installed onto one of my servers if wanted. UTM also offers preconfigured VM
> images, so why not ask them to upload a preconfigured virtual machine or a
> template there?
I'd like to see them host a speakup and or brltty enabled image. Now how to contact them other than discord?
I've not used discord before. How's it with accessibility?
I'd be very appreciative of you uploading an image of a speakup enabled image, if you can. Let me know if you need a place to put it.
Thanks for fighting through this with me.
--FC
>
> Cheers,
>
> Schoepp
>
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