Re: Debian Games Pure Blend
Hi Markus,
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 11:41:52PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote:
>
> I think I understand your point about suggesting not yet uploaded or
> created packages. You basically view the web sentinel as the central hub
> for all user, contributor and developer related tasks. However I think
> there are some important differences between debian-med and debian-games.
>
> Debian Med deals mainly with highly specialized software which is
> completely under the umbrella of one team and a few maintainers whereas
> games are also maintained by various maintainers outside the Debian
> Games Team and it's not obvious to know what they are currently working on.
Well, I do not want to tweak your opinion but I'd call this rather a
counter argument for your point of view. The fact that there are
maintainers outside the team would in my eyes be the best reason to use
the web sentinel to gather things in one place. The Blends framework is
explicitly made for this purpose and what you currently see that all
the medical software is maintained by one team is rather the effect of
using the Blends framework rather than the reason why we are using it.
> For what it's worth, the web sentinel shouldn't be overstated in regard
> to other sources like Debian's wiki or the bug tracker. There are also
> initiatives like tagging games related wnpp bugs [1] or listing new
> games on a wiki page and keeping [2] up-to-date.
I agree that the framework can't replace the bug tracker (and it is not
designed for it). However it was designed after realising that the Wiki
can't catch up with current development and even if *in theory* a Wiki
is "always up to date" we realised that it is not and always lagging
behind. Moreover the feature to fetch information from VCS is saving
you manual editing work in the Wiki[2] ... since all the information
you are mentioning there are available
1. for free automatically
2. up to date with development in VCS.
Believe me - I had this discussion in *every* Blend where people in the
beginning were swearing on their (continuosely outdated ;-B) Wiki pages
...
> Nevertheless I will try to improve the visibility of new projects and
> the web sentinel can surely play a part. I just wanted to state that we
> shouldn't have unrealistic expectations from the web sentinel alone.
Well, every team should deal with the tools that fit. I do not want to
push someone into using the Blends sentinel. I just try to discuss the
pros and cons.
Kind regards
Andreas.
> [1]
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
> [2] https://wiki.debian.org/Games/Suggested
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