Re: RH and GNOME
Hi,
>>"Petra," == Petra, Kevin J Poorman <ewigin@SoftHome.net> writes:
Petra> I don't think you are understanding what I am talking
Petra> about. in order for what I am talking about to ocur, WE ALL
Petra> need to change our mindsets.
So convince us that we need to change our mindsets. Calling us
names is not likely to achieve that. So far, you have failed to
convince me, at least.
Petra> It is also, a gross distortion of the truth, to treat me like,
Petra> a win95-windows-gui-only-otherwise-your-a-big-fat-moron
Petra> zelot.
"Zealot". (For the record: I never use such pejoratives).
Petra> I'm not all I'm arguing for is a better users suport
Petra> base for newbies, and users, who want to USE linux not WRITE
Petra> linux. thats not so bad is it?
I don't write Linux either. On the other hand, when I get a
chain saw, I intend to learn how to use it fully; including reading
the documentation that comes with it from covfer to cover before
cutting my foot off.
I want a chainsaw to cut and trim trees, not a cahinsaw that
my 6 year old could use with no instruction, since I suspect that
would make the chainsaw useless.
Petra> .... Manoj is not lazy I know that. However his attitude is
Petra> lax and selfish.
I would find that offensive if your opinions counted for
anything with me. I think my attitude is not selfish; it is
practical, and I am all for helping a person who takes pride in their
tools and at least attempts to learn how to use them.
I am not here to "serve" users (they have to pay me for that),
I am here to share whatever skills I have with the community; and
there are people more skilled than I, from whom I learn, but I don't
demand from, and I am grateful for that, and there are people less
skilled than I, and with whom I am willing to share. The lables less
skilled and more skilled are often interchangeable, depending on the
are of expertise we are talking about.
I fail to find this philosophy of sharing with my community
lax and selfish.
As I have said before, people who make ad hominem attacks
really are resorting to it becase their argument has nothing
to stand on.
Petra> ah, yes a quote from the demi god of software himself... well
Petra> here's one for you.
I think you need have better credentials before you can so
casually dismiss Stallman.
Petra> "... do unto others as you would have done unto you."
So, what have the users who fail to see the spirit of give and
take, who fail to put in an effort to learn, who expect me to slave
for hours so they have not to lift a finger, what have they done for
me? Why can't I do unto them as they have done unto me, then? Why
should I do more for them that I expect to have done for me?
manoj
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