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Re: Proposed Grail and JPython Licenses



> > > What about buying a Debian cdrom, or borrowing one, or getting a copy
> > > from someone on a floppy disk?
> > 
> > Ask your own lawyer.  I really can't tell what harm there is here.
> > Everyone else seems to find the licence acceptable if a bit tedious to 
> > read -- I'm the first to admit the latter but I am unable to fix it.
> 
> A have to admit that I have a little bit trouble with the first paragraph 
> as well: Simply out of the fact that I have not yet seen any site beyond 
> CNRI distribute Grail or JPython.  The current way to download Python 
> looks very much like a registration procedure, even if the current 
> license doesn't require a registration.
> 
> But judging from the remainder of the now proposed license, I guess the
> spirit of the license is that anybody can give away the work as usual with
> open-source and whoever received it is allowed to step into the license
> and use the product accordingly. Even if you'll say that this can be no 
> legal advice: Is that correct in your opinion, Guido ? If you say yes, 
> that should suffice for me.

We plan not to do any registration (i.e. the form asking for name
etc. will disappear).  Our own site will still require clicking on an
ACCEPT button, but the whole point of the new license is indeed that
redistribution using more traditional means is allowed.

> In the end, if we wanted to be sure, we could put a version into main,
> somebody could download it from there and ask CNRI if he's now allowed to
> use it according to the license terms. Depending on CNRI's answer, we 
> still could decide to remove it from main without legal consequences (at 
> least that's how I would understand (7) ;-)

I say there's no need to ask.

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)


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