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Re: xbase problem (2.0_



Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> Ralph Winslow wrote:
> >
> > Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > >
> > > Ralph Winslow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When Clyde Wilson wrote, I replied:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 1998, Stan Brown wrote:
<snip>
> > > > When I tried this I got
> > > >
> > > > # /usr/sbin/xbase-configure
> > > > ksh: /usr/sbin/xbase-configure: not found
> > >
> > >   Hmmm, I'm running slink, and never heard of (and I looked for) this file.
> > >
> > > > I had been running fvwm95-2 and I'm kind of used to that, but it seems
> > > > that now
> > > > (since I upgraded to slinK, that is) I'm only able to get fvwm2.  As you
> > > > can see, pon/ppp is OK as is netscape4.5 which I had been and am still
> > > > able to use.  But
> > > > this window manager won't resize or reposition windows, doesn't Iconify,
> > > > etc.
> > > > How can I get fvwm95-2 back?
> > >
> > >         What does your /etc/X11/window-manager file say?
> >
> > ps aef shows that I'm running fvwm95 and that it's under
> > ~my_login_id/.xinitrc
> > but this window manager is totally different - I can't re-size or even
> > move the windows  that I open, I don't have a color background, but a
> > cross-hatch background, focus changes by cursor moving into a window and
> > not by clicking on it, there's no bar at the bottom that shows iconified
> > tasks, nor a bar above it for launching xterms, netscape, etc nor clock,
> > nor system activity.
> 
>   Except for the part about not being able to move windows, it sounds like you
> are running fvwm2 (do you still have fvwm1?), but all window managers allow

Don't know anything about fvwm1.

> you to move the windows, so I'm not sure whats going on here.  If you can move
> the focus (sure about this?), 

Can't move windows, but can change focus by clicking.  I'll attach ps
output
that shows /usr/bin/X11/fvwm95 running.
<snip>
>    This probably won't be the problem, but, make sure you have a symlink called
> xinitrc in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit.  It should point to a
> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file. this file, on its last line, should say '.
> /etc/X11/Xsession'.

All true.

> 
<snip>
> >
> > My .xinitrc checks for executable fvwm-95-2, then fvwm95, then fvwm,
> > then twm
> > and executes the first it finds - hence fvwm95.  I'm considering a move
> 
>         Your .xinitrc shouldn't do this check; this is what /etc/X11/Xsession does!
> ??? (What's going on here?)  Try renaming your .xinitrc to something else and
> run X.  Does it work correctly (from above, I'm assuming fvwm95 is in the
> first line of /etc/X11/window-managers)?. 

Moved ~/.xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc.hold; fvwm95 is the first line - I'll
attach
that and other files.

> Do you get fvwm95 and the default
> xterm?  If you still can't figure out the problem, then I have 2 suggestions.
> One, try reinstalling fvwm95, and say 'y' to the question 'do you want to make
> this wm the default?'.  It might help. 

I used dselect to remove, then re-install fvwm95 and fvwm95-icons (and a
couple
other things dselect recommended) but install never asked 'do I want
this wm
as default?'

> Second, come back to this list and
> show us *exactly* what you are doing.  Show us the contents of ~/.xinitrc,
> /etc/X11/window-managers, /etc/X11/config, and make sure you have
> 'allow-user-xsession' in Xsession.options.  Are you starting X with 'startx
> &', or are you using xdm.

startx (no &) - I had a bad experience with xdm - it would crash and
re-start
endlessly, disabling my system (had to boot from diskette).  So now I
run
startx from tty6 as myself.

As noted above, I removed ~.xinitrc - the rest are attached.
> 
> > to wmaker,
> 
>         By itself, WM is very nice, but if you are also running gnome (from what
> you've said, I don't think you are) then a simpler window manager, like fvwm2
> without the pager, is better.
> 
> > but I don't want to spend time learning a new environment (not that I
> > really learned fvwm95-2; I just seemed intuitive).
> 
>    WM has a floating dock which can be configured while running WM; no mucking
> around in a config file is needed.  This plus the debian menu makes WM easy to
> use.  The WM configure program is also very much reccomended.
> 
> --
> Ed C.
> 
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Ralph Winslow		      rjw@nac.net
The IQ of the group is that of the member
whose IQ is lowest  divided by the number
of members.
  PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
  220   6 S    0:00 -ksh 
 9104   6 S    0:00 xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc -bpp 24 -- -auth /hom
 9112   6 S    0:00 /usr/bin/X11/fvwm95 
 9120  p1 S    0:00 -ksh 
 9126  p2 S    0:00 ksh 
 9128  p3 S    0:00 ksh 
 9130  p4 S    0:00 ksh 
 9132  p5 S    0:00 ksh 
 9134  p6 S    0:00 ksh 
 9135  p1 S    0:09 /usr/lib/netscape/netscape http://www.users.nac.net/rjw/ 
 9152  p1 S    0:00 (dns helper) 
 9158  p6 S    0:00 ping mail.nac.net 
 9159  p3 R    0:00 ps 
# This file contains a list of available window managers. The default
# Xsession file will start the first window manager that it can
# in this list.
#/usr/bin/X11/fvwm95-2
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm95
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm
/usr/bin/X11/twm
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm95
/usr/bin/X11/fvwm95
# This file contains configuration flags for the X Window System.
# For a description of the meanings of the flags, see
# /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian

run-xconsole
obey-nologin
allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession
allow-failsafe
xdm-start-server
# start-xdm
no-start-xdm
# /etc/X11/Xsession.options
#
# configuration options for /etc/X11/Xsession
# See Xsession.options(5) for an explanation of the available options.
no-allow-failsafe
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-resources
allow-user-xsession

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