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Re: Spam from the list?



On 07/03/2024 21:04, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 09:44:51AM +0100, Hans wrote:
--- sninp ---

Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu; spf=none
smtp.mailfrom=lists.debian.org
Authentication-Results: mail35c50.megamailservers.eu;
	dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key)
header.d=debian.org header.i=@debian.org header.b="pDp/TPD5"
Return-Path: <bounce-debian-devel=hans.ullrich=loop.de@lists.debian.org>
Received: from bendel.debian.org (bendel.debian.org [82.195.75.100])
	by mail35c50.megamailservers.eu (8.14.9/8.13.1) with ESMTP id
425I9ZEK112497
	for <hans.ullrich@loop.de>; Tue, 5 Mar 2024 18:09:37 +0000

--- snap ---

White mails get the dkim=pass and spam mails got dkim=fail (as you see above).

A great many legitimate emails will fail DKIM so it is not a great
idea to reject every email that does so. I don't think that you are
going to have a good time using Internet mailing lists while your
mail provider rejects mails with invalid DKIM, so if I were you I'd
work on fixing that rather than trying to get everyone involved to
correctly use DKIM.

In this specific example your problem is that a mail came through
the Debian bug tracking system (which pretends to be the original
sender) and on the way out was DKIm signed by debian.org and then
went through Debian's list servers. Somewhere in there the DKIM
signature was broken.

I don't rate your chances of getting the operators of
bugs.debian.org and lists.debian.org to agree to preserve DKIM since
I know at least some of them are severely opposed to DKIM.

Your mailbox provider really should not be rejecting everything that
has a broken DKIm signature. This email from me will probably have a
broken DKIM signature.

Thanks,
Andy

Andy's mail's DKIM looks OK here:

Authentication-Results: mx.zohomail.com;
	dkim=pass;
	spf=none (zohomail.com: 82.195.75.100 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of lists.debian.org)  smtp.mailfrom=bounce-debian-user=john=bunsenlabs.org@lists.debian.org;
	dmarc=pass(p=none dis=none)  header.from=strugglers.net
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1709813111; cv=none;
	d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc;
	b=E/0YtYVq6D01XC5ug3vazK169M6jDxoXOO6K7rs6qdKhNHP1XDV7QSLAvwJetsjzooDe39MNSl/160MWgl3URqQ1YhPYZ9aBFQ3DsmN74mTKPiQYOxqx0XzNy1Nemo4oRetVQDrwEGeegQWUBbrxtbD18x8R7Dd9Ps19NxKRMP8=
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc;
	t=1709813111; h=Content-Type:Date:Date:From:From:In-Reply-To:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Id:List-Archive:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Resent-Sender:Resent-Date:References:Resent-Message-ID:Resent-From:Subject:Subject:To:To:Message-Id:Reply-To:Cc;
	bh=ohelUf+wTnNtAeaNpYE6UONuc2euPhvqBvxLaU7Fz7c=;
	b=MUW94hTSknXpUch7F94usVvulKMrwldlWtoyP582oO6+EMhKaeisaBraF7KE46pdbHyE+AAzf/dn0xPDxNnN+M+RXSbXsQvu7qEIe/+q6fCdppDhql+IMx+U9H+Q61olqpD+JMh9IxFgAUSKme0bLD8NhFKOskvLdtzqq3XeIpg=
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com;
	dkim=pass;
	spf=none (zohomail.com: 82.195.75.100 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of lists.debian.org)  smtp.mailfrom=bounce-debian-user=john=bunsenlabs.org@lists.debian.org;
	dmarc=pass header.from=<andy@strugglers.net> (p=none dis=none)

--snip--

DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed;
	d=strugglers.net; s=alpha; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References
	:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender:Reply-To:Cc
	:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-To;
	bh=ohelUf+wTnNtAeaNpYE6UONuc2euPhvqBvxLaU7Fz7c=; b=c5YTQp9JWbbPNuLxDYO19XXqgy
	KmEiV4tSD2LlNXy4C9/5PPfZ5JGT6U70UQpwIXgC1alHcUyD+LY6JDPEbO33KuWsWr4gvrJCwrq0u
	HMUc+sKwQgknFeLxa5Jk3a3VFLURsYYec+6Lc9C4WsQB9I+xuv8CmO22xpRRNqB3SWdR7gtHy+Ab8
	1UGvqoeEsCAtc5y2dt3uiX6Uy5qYDRbgbSVBhfq4TwjxmyTqmnkT1oG62tW2LavipJDvfR/40weCR
	B/S7To5h6Lgc/1oLArFNtrtPlfyyRg38maGSj5Jgt9X5Vwdfg187lIla/I4OBjib2pDV5d38QzL7v
	4Vz0PYFg==;

--
John


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