The 3C509 (Etherlink III) is fine to use, as long as you don't use _two_ in the same system. That works, but you can't tell which one gets attached first and that is a problem for gateway systems. You didn't say what kernel version you were using, did you? There have been lots of bugs in the networking code. Bruce -- Pixar Animation Studios: Reality is not our business. Pixar's "Toy Story" $184,592,498 domestic, $49 million overseas and counting.