Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> wrote on 10/11/2023 at 16:08:30+0100:
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 at 14:22, Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> wrote:
>>
>> Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> wrote on 10/11/2023 at 15:00:24+0100:
>>
>> > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 at 13:45, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > If we want to start nitpicking, then let's be exact: 0.61% of popcon.
>> >> > Whether that qualifies as "plenty" we'll leave as an exercise for the
>> >> > readers.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if this sort of arrogant "don't care about minorities" attitude
>> >> will ever stop? Was sort of hoping that things would quiet down when
>> >> everyone just gave up on the systemd and usr-merge crazyness. But it
>> >> seems the bullies continue on and on and on and on.
>> >>
>> >> I guess those 0.61% are run bt the most valuable Debian users out there.
>> >> I'm sorry to not be one of them, but that's the way things have become.
>> >> Not by choice.
>> >
>> > Having a 5x performance improvement in core utilities at zero cost for
>> > 99.39% of users and at the cost of an extra library that is already
>> > widely used for 0.61% --> bullying. Noted.
>>
>> The problem is not the argument but clearly the way you state it, which
>> is quite coherent with your way of answering most of the time.
>>
>> I know it's not mandatory, but a bit of empathy, a bit of caring and a
>> bit of "just because I can act bluntly with a pinch of contempt doesn't
>> mean I should" would be really appreciable.
>
> You know what else would be really appreciable? Not starting the
> usual, tired, old flamewar, with heavily emotionally charged language
> ("bullying", "contempt", "lack of empathy", "lack of caring", etc),
> when talking about something as trivial and harmless as installing a
> widely used and common library to get a 5x performance boost out of
> the core system. How about we do that instead? Because, just in case
> perspective was already lost, this is what started the tirade:
>
>> This sounds great. systemd also uses OpenSSL for various things, so
>> libssl3 is pretty much a given on any bootable installation anyway
>> already.
>
> IE: a supportive and appreciative comment, followed by a relevant and
> objective piece of information. Where's the bullying?
I'd like to extend an apology to Luca, my mail was intended to be
private, I used the wrong shortcut to reply. I'll therefore reply to
this second mail privately as it was first intended.
Regards,
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PEB
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